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Rugby Union 2018 Six Nations

Discussion in 'Other Sports Betting' started by traeth, Feb 1, 2018.

  1. traeth

    traeth Moderator

    full fixture list with tv channels for each match here

    outright winner oddschecker odds
    Six Nations Winner
    England 2.1
    Ireland 2.88
    Scotland 12
    Wales 19
    France 26
    Italy 1000

    With last year being a "Lions Tour Year" , there are more injuries to the key players.
    Wales tend to do poorly following a Lions tour but those odds are tempting.
    Wales have selected ten Scarlets to start on Saturday against Scotland , Scarlets performances recently have been good.
    In the Autumn internationals Scotland played very well and have the least players affected by the Lions " tiredness factor"
  2. traeth

    traeth Moderator

    first weekend fixtures with odds

    Saturday 3rd February 2018
    14:15 Wales (1.75)Draw (29)Scotland (2.5)
    16:45 France (3.5)Draw (26)Ireland (1.44)

    Sunday 4th February 2018
    15:00 Italy (19)Draw (67)England (1.07)

    the caps for each game
    Wales (-2) Scotland (+2)
    France (+6) Ireland (-6)
    Italy (+21) England (-21)

    I'm a big follower of a positive handicap for the home side .
    I'll be having a closer look at France ,
    Italy +10 at half time is another one that requires futher investigation.

    Anyone else have an opinion ?
    We had Doc posting a few months back , would be great to here his view.

    As always Wales will be getting my money , my heart ruling again but my head says England
  3. slick

    slick Administrator

    I'm not a big RU fan traeth but like I've said in the past I do like the 6 nations and the 5 one b4 that lol.

    From the bits I've seen this year Scotland are playing well and have it within themselves to do well if they don't beat themselves up mentally , England and Wales will probably be favorites but both sides have injuries to key players, Ireland will as usual be tough to beat at The Aviva, France seem to get worse year by year and Italy will run one team close but get battered in the rest of their games.
  4. slick

    slick Administrator

    Didn't realise Wales were 19's:eek, just goes to show what I know lol.
  5. slick

    slick Administrator

    Surprised to see Scotland at 12's too, I was probably impressed by them the most in the Autumn Internationals and like you say they will have benefited most by have few players on the Lions tour.
  6. traeth

    traeth Moderator

    Some great rugby in the first weekend

    Wales win easily after the Scots gifted them an intercepted try early on , after a second Wales try the Scots were poor and their away form continues to be pitiful.
    Ireland win with a late long range drop goal, great kick from Sexton, Ireland win by 2 points , France on the cap would have won, France involved in a HIA controversy again.
    Brian Moore comment of " brain in his knee" says it all.
    England score seven tries against Italy . H.T. score 10-17 , so the Italy +10 h.t. cap came in.
    Some great tries with some excellent moves by England's backs.
    ITV commentry was dire , but not as bad as John Invertwat post match comments on Saturday.

    Next weekend fixtures
    14:15 Ireland (1.02)Draw (201)Italy (67)
    16:45England (1.20) Draw (34)Wales (5.4)
    Sunday 11th
    15:00Scotland (1.53) Draw (26)France (3.02)

    the caps
    Ireland (-32) Italy (+32)
    England (-11) Wales (+11)
    Scotland (-5) France (+5)

    I think England v Wales will be a close one , at the moment I'm not confident enough to back a Wales win but Wales +11 is a bet for me.
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  7. Colbro

    Colbro Well-Known Member

    What did he say?
  8. Doc

    Doc New Member

    Hello traeth

    Busy procrastinating at work here, so thought I'd make a short diversion into this thread. The -32 point cap in the Ireland games looks well breachable. In the last 6 years against Italy (i.e. three home games), the scores have been 42-10, 46-7 and 58-15. Italy's traditional strength - the scrum, has got weaker and Ireland have got stronger in that area. You'll probably see significant game time for some of Irelands new generation - the Carbery, Larmour, McGrath, Leavy, Ryan, Conan group and these guys are fast, fit, skillful and full of confidence in the running game that Leinster are playing. Conor O'Shea has already said he'll freshen up the team, and I don't see it being any stronger than it was against England. Ireland won't turn over the ball often and will be fair close to as ruthless as England, but probably tighter in defence than England were.

    England-Wales will be interesting. I think Wales forwards are vulnerable to attack, and England have the beef to do it. Wales confidence will be sky-high though, and they have tended to bounce back well from poor seasons (like last) under Gatland. Their record over the last 10 years against England is ok - 6 wins from 14, including 3 at Twickenham. Most games have tended to be one score results. Not made up my find fully on this one, but instinct says Wales to beat the +11

    Scotland -5 to France jumps out at me as strange. Scotland have only won twice against France in 6N history, and only once in the last 10 years. Most recent games have been fairly close, but while Scotland have hinted at improvements (particularly under Vern Cotter), France have been shit for most of that time. I was quite impressed with them against Ireland last weekend though - their defence was really excellent, and their set-piece was good. Scotland have no front row to speak of, and their pack (with these injuries) is average on a good day. Finn Russell is a nice footballer, but disappears under pressure and I'm not convinced by any of their nines. My only slight concern would be France's discipline - they gave away some daft penalties last Saturday. That should be easily fixable, and I don't see Scotland being able to put enough pressure on up front to force many. I can't therefore see Scotland running up much of a score here, while the physical power of the French should be enough to generate points. I'll be surprised if France don't win by at least a score here.
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  9. traeth

    traeth Moderator

    He went straight to pointing out the forward pass in the fourth try , which resulted in the bonus point and was backed by Nicol , no mention of the Wyn Jones "try" that was disallowed which would have given up the bonus point earlier.
    His praise of Halfpenny was begrudgingly given .
    Warburton later made a comment "People who criticise Halfpenny, I don't think they understand the game."

    It could be that my dislike for Invertwat clouds my understanding of what he actually says.
  10. traeth

    traeth Moderator

    Hi Doc , great analysis.

    I'm a great believer in the advantage for the home side in international rugby.
    In the past Wales did struggle at Twickenham but that has been overcome in recent years , in the last 6 matches at Twickenham we have won 3 and lost 3 .
    I don't think that Garcias , the french ref will be influenced by the braying home crowd , I believed he reffed the lash two years ago at Twickenham , that was a close one.

    Still not convinced but sticking withe cap bet on Wales
  11. traeth

    traeth Moderator

    I feel I must post about our local hero.

    Jess Kavanagh has been selected again on the wing for Wales against England , having scoring a try last week and being involved in all the tries.
    I used to coach her brother in the local U14 team , he went on to play football , Jess started off as a footballer when she was at school and converted to rugby at college. She used to come to watch the boys playing. She now coaches children and ladies at the same club

    here is a story about her dedication to training with Wales , under the title
    "The Wales rugby player who is dubbed 'mad' "

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  12. traeth

    traeth Moderator

    week 2 results

    Scotland 32v26 France

    Ireland 56v19 Italy Ireland overcome the 32 cap, wll done doc

    England 12v6 Wales , within the 10 cap , bet is up

    This weekend's odds
    Friday 23rd 20:00
    France (1.11)Draw (51)Italy (10)
    France (-17) Italy (+17)

    Saturday 24th 14:15
    Ireland (1.29)Draw (29)Wales (4.6)
    Ireland (-10)Wales (+10)

    Scotland (3.75)Draw (29)England (1.4)
    Scotland (+6)England (-6)

    Following France's performance on and off the field the team will be very different Friday but the are still good enough to beat Italy, I see it being very close to the cap so avoiding this game now.

    Wales have announced their team with three chances of Biggar, Williams and Halfpenny , All three are better challengers for the high ball , for us I see this being more defensive. I would have preferred if we would have persevered with Patchell but he does not make the bench this week.
    I can see a close match and I will be going with Wales +10

    England have the strength up front and some good backs , Scotland do perform much better at home. I can see this game being very entertaining but believe that it will be an away win . I can't decide if I'm going to place a bet yet.
  13. Doc

    Doc New Member

    I fancy France. They've broken that cap in most of the recent games, and I think it has been a clever move by Brunel to drop all the guys. He'll have some hungry motivated players with a point to prove tonight.

    Most Wales-Ireland games are closer than 10. I hope I'm wrong, but that +10 for Wales looks tasty to me. Ireland have some significant injuries, and Wales are always up for this one.

    Can't see past England in this game. I really don't rate Scotland that highly, and I think their game against England last year and Wales this, are better benchmarks than some close shaves in the autumn international. England are strong in all the areas Scotland are weak. England -6

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